“different accents? gotta do better than that…”

Linguistically, all that separate American from British from Australians, etc is different accents. Are you saying they are the same culture?

Palestinian culture defines itself through Israeli oppression and dispossession. Hence literature, like the poetry of Mahmoud Darwish is from a uniquely Palestinian culture.

BTW, the Grand Mufti was no more pro-Nazi than Israel’s former PM Yazhak Shamir and his ideological mentor Avraham Stern. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_%28group%29#Contact_with_Nazi_Germany

The Mufti’s collaboration was no more despicable than those of Zionists who made deals with the Nazis under the Haavara Agreement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

It should be noted that anti-Nazi Jews like Haim Arlozoroff were assassinated by the Zionist movement because they opposed dealing with the Nazis.

A decent person would never argue that the Haavara Agreement and the actions/speeches of Stern and Shamir taint every Israeli citizen with Nazism. Likewise a decent person would never argue that the Mufti’a actions/speeches taint every Palestinian (let alone every Arab) with Nazism. But then again, you are not a “decent” person.

different accents? gotta do better than that…

and enough of the meme that the mufti joined with the germans to rid the land of the brits

you guys want it both ways….cuz at the same time you say the mufti wanted to rid the land of the brits, you like to note that it was the brits that gave him his power and that at least 1000 “palestinians” fought alongside the brits.

and as the ss didnt fight at the front, what does creating an all muslim ss division have to do with fighting brits? and was the death camp in nablus only for “zionists”? dont make me laff

and yes andrew…you are a revisionist

LOLZ

As for the Grand Mufti, from what I have read, he approached the Germans on account of getting rid of the British in Palestine. He was one amongst many Palestinian leaders at the time as there were different factions lead by different people and he was appointed by the British but eventually turned against them when he finally realised that he was being bought by them and pacified with an empty title and British promises of independence were not going to be upheld. Yes, he was worried about Zionist mass immigration to Palestine and their aggressive behaviour and wanted them out of Palestine, but he was not against Jews. Jews, Muslims and Christians had lived together in harmony for centuries. Also, if he was a Nazi collaborator, he would have been put on trial as others were. He lived openly next door to Israel until his death so he was easy to find.
As for Jewish law. Zionists rebelled against the British who were governing Palestine- this is not allowed. Jews are not to set up a state through force and arms, which is exactly what they did through terrorizing the Palestinians in the 1947 ethnic cleansing episodes and in the King David Hotel bombing and other acts like killing British soldiers and blowing up railways. The Irgun, Stern and Haganah knew that force had to be used to remove the native population of their land to make as much land available for Zionist settlement.
Of course Palestinians are native to Palestine, Walt! The Romans called it Palestine. and DNA analysis even links Palestinians to the land. Palestinians still have the land deeds and keys to their homes and the United Nations has a definition of who is a Palestinian refugee. You should investigate these facts.

As for ‘Arab Jews’, these are Jews from Arab lands who speak Arabic and have Arabic culture. European Jews speak one of the many European languages and have European culture. Why are you puzzled by this? Arabs are not offended by Jews who call themselves Arab Jews. There are Arab Muslims and Arab Christians. Why are you ignorant of this?

can you tell me the diff between “palestinian” culture and any of the arabs from other countries? the difference in language?

there are/were christians in egypt, lebanon, iraq, iran and most of the arab world…so what?

you make it sound as if the “palestinians” were the only christians in the region

you are truly a revisionist moron

sorry…unlike jewlicious, i choose not engage in polite debate with revisionists

very much how max chooses to revise the history of the grand mufti…only reason he didnt have a larger role in the holocaust was because the nazis were stopped before his grand plan of building a death camp in nablus could be put into effect. but ya, setting up an all muslim ss unit….thats a tiny thing

never mind that both max and the book he quotes totally ignores the role that north africans had in the holocaust

no….israel and jews just need to find reasons to hate the arabs….rofl

In fact, you can’t have it both ways. Either the Palestinian Christians were there before the Islamic conquest or the Arabian settlers converted to Christianity, which wouldn’t be likely.

And no, there was never an independent nation-state of Palestine. Nation-states are a relatively new concept of political entity. I use country in the sense of the land the people are living in as opposed to a political state. The last provision of the universal decl. gives me the leeway to do this. We don’t have to spill gallons of ink on the meaning of a country before accepting if you are from the general location of Jaffa or Ramle, you have the right to go back there and if you are denied the right to go back there because your great-grandparents were kicked out you still have that right.

why id yourself as an “arab jew”? i dont think the arabs ever considered you an arab