From the Facebook page of Pam Geller's Stop The Islamization Of America (SIOA)
After working tirelessly to inspire a nationwide pogrom against Muslim citizens of the United States, the leading online race hustler Pam Geller is pantomiming outrage about a video showing her supporters harassing and nearly assaulting a black man they mistook for a Muslim at the rally against the construction of the Cordoba House Islamic center on August 22. Geller’s reaction to the video was couched in a typically unhinged tirade against me; she described me as a “kapo” and “notorious Jew hater.” Geller then claimed, “I have no idea what this rally is,” and went on to attack the heavily-promoted, well-publicized demonstration as a “half-assed effort,” calling it, “harmful to the cause of freedom of expression.”
It is always amusing when leaders of groups that openly promote genocide against religious minorities and other out-class members accuse their followers of crossing a red line, as though there is any threshold they will not cross. Usually these moments arise from the kind of ugly leadership struggles that are common to proto-fascist movements comprised of neurotic and otherwise psychologically dysfunctional individuals (see the demise of the Minutemen for an example). Such a scenario appears to have prompted Geller’s screed.
As a stereotypical, shrieking figure who exhibits the classically sadomasochistic pathology of authoritarian demagogues — the simultaneous drive to destroy the weak and worship power — Geller is utterly incapable of summoning any moral opposition to the raw racism that was on display at Park51. After all, she played a central role in inciting the ugly spectacle.
More genocidal propaganda from Geller's SIOA
Thus it appears Geller’s attempt to distance herself from the rally is purely cynical, the result of a row between her and the group that organized the rally, The Coalition To Honor Ground Zero. Richard Bartholomew speculated that Geller may have flown into a petulant frenzy over the pointed exclusion of her outfit, Stop The Islamization Of America, from the protest. Acrimony between her and Tom Trento of the Florida Security Council over the handling of a past anti-Muslim initiative may have also provoked her snit. Whatever the reason, it is increasingly clear that Geller is going to extreme lengths to keep the movement under her heel; any event planned outside the purview of her organization presents a direct threat to her celebrity and paycheck.
Geller’s claim that she had “no idea” about the August 22 rally is ridiculous. According to the Daily Caller, “Beth Gilinsky, an organizer for The Coalition to Honor Ground Zero and founder of the Jewish Action Alliance, is coordinating the rally.” And Gilinsky and Geller have worked hand-in-glove for years. At the April 25 Stand With Israel rally in New York City, Gilinsky introduced Geller as “a very dear friend” for whom she holds “enormous admiration.” (Geller proceeded to wave a scarf reading “Yid Army” before the crowd, making a cartoonish attempt at Jewish ethnic identification while at the same time expressing her admiration for violent British football hooligans.) Geller has also lavished praise on Gilinsky, hailing her as one of the “warriors” who attempted to stop the Khalil Gibran Academy from opening in Brooklyn.
The Facebook page of SIOA is a window into the mentality of Geller and her allies
Considering that Geller and Gilinsky spearheaded the campaign against the Girban Academy and that they at least claim to be “very dear” friends, it is hard to imagine that Geller had “no idea” that Gilinsky and company were planning a major rally on August 22. So Geller is simply deceiving her readers. And given that many of those on the list of organizations and individual racists supporting The Coalition To Honor Ground Zero are scheduled to appear at the rally Geller is planning on 9-11 against Cordoba House, Geller appears to be disparaging her own allies as well, conceding that they are in fact a bunch of deranged, potentially violent bigots whose actions are “harmful to the cause of freedom of expression.”
It is up to Geller to explain to her readers why she is lying to them and why she holds her confederates in such contempt. Until then, she can respond to the following questions:
1. Does Geller condemn the August 22 Park 51 rally or not? Put up or shut up.
2. Does Geller condemn the groups and individuals associated with the “half-assed” and “harmful” effort?
3. If Barack Obama is Malcolm X’s illegitimate child as Geller has claimed, is Geller the mistress of Mel Gibson?
4. If Geller is such a good Jew, why does she endorse a British fascist group that is led by anti-Semitic skinheads and is connected to the whites-only British National Party?
5. Does Geller condemn Glenn Beck as an anti-Semite for saying the Jews killed Jesus? Yes or no. Anti-semitism, yes or no.
6. If Geller is such a good Jew, why does she so brazenly violate established halachic guidelines against cosmetic surgery?
7. Why is Geller lying about writing for a settler news organisation in the Occupied Palestinian Territories – when there are links to her Israel National News articles all over her “blog” – and all the articles are still available online?
Denial:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/the-guardian-of-what.html
Articles:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Author.aspx/567
8. Geller has recently claimed that she “loves muslims”. Is endorsing the nuclear destruction of Pakistan (of the hindu nationalist: “she gets it”) an expression of Geller’s love? If yes, does she have trouble maintaining romantic relationships?
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/03/pamela-geller-and-robert-spencer-wipe-pakistan-off-the-map/
9. Geller has endorsed nuclear attacks on Tehran, Mecca, Medina and Europe (revenge for the holocaust) in the highly unlikely event of an Iranian nuclear attack on Israel. Tehran has a population of ~8.5 million, Mecca ~2 million, Medina ~1.5 million, Europe ~700million. How many Persians, Arabs and Europeans should Israel kill? In such circumstance does Geller believe AIPAC can muster enough support in Congress that Obama is forced to use the US veto in the Security Council, against any resolution drafted criticising Israel?
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/02/pamela-geller-watch-5-israel-should-nuke-tehran-mecca-and-medina/
10. Is there anything nuclear weapons can’t do?
11. David Horowitz funds Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch. Who funds Geller’s operation?
12. Newt Gingrich recently withdrew from Geller’s anti-Park 51 rally planned for September 11. Has Geller now learnt her lesson that no man no where no how will EVER come close to John Bolton in terms of overall fabulousness? Is she surprised Gingrich has now join the jew-hating kitten-kicking stealth jihadist brigade?
Geller hates christians and hates jewish men:
The Quaran states Lot, Job, David, Jesus were prophets and Mary was a righteous woman. Torah and talmud have hateful and violent anti-gentile statements. Talmud states Mary was a harlot and Jesus a bastard. Jesus is eternally in boiling semen in hell, christians forever in boiling manure.
Circumcision is not mentioned in the Quran and is not a commandment in Islam. Maimonides wrote circumcision was “to limit sexual intercourse, and to weaken the organ of generation as far as possible, and thus cause man to be moderate…for there is no doubt that circumcision weakens the power of sexual excitement, and sometimes lessens the natural enjoyment; the organ necessarily becomes weak when … deprived of its covering from the beginning. Our sages say distinctly: it is hard for a woman, with whom an uncircumcised [man] had sexual intercourse, to separate from him.”
After reading “A Guide to the Perplexed,” I certainly was. After hearing for forever how great the Rambam was, the only redeeming quality I could find in his philosophy was that of t’shuvah. Otherwise, he seems to be a misogynistic sexual pervert, who somehow seemed to miss a lot of things in Torah.
Two things that stick in my head: I can’t find anything in Torah in which Abraham and HaShem discuss the measurements of the covenant, and HaShem didn’t seem to have a problem with Tzipporah as mohelet…so why should Maimonides?
RE: she described me as a “kapo” and “notorious Jew hater.” – Max B.
MY COMMENT: I suspect that Pamela Geller is a self-hating human.
from Ms. Geller’s “MAX BLUMENTHAL LIES AGAIN ABOUT GELLER”
“UPDATE: Another misrepresentation by the lying left. This incident (above) that was blown out of all proportion by Blumenthal was not the Ground Zero rally, but a skirmish outside the Path train entrance.”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/max-blumenthal-lies-again-about-geller.html
Others who have “blown out of all proportion” the friendly “skirmish”:
Max Read
“Anti-’Ground Zero Mosque’ Rally Freaks Out at Black Guy”
http://gawker.com/5619136/anti+ground-zero-mosque-rally-freaks-out-at-black-guy
Kim I. Hartman
“man walking through the crowd was mistakenly thought to be Muslim, prompting the throng to hurl angry, hateful words at him.”
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/296492
Justin Elliott
“The man who recorded a now-viral video at Sunday’s ground zero protest explains how the scene got so ugly.”
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/23/angry_mosque_protest_video_interview
Matt Duss
“person of color wearing a skull cap and wandering through the crowd was targeted with insults and nearly attacked by protesters for the offense of looking vaguely Muslim.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/23/ground-zero-hate/
[...] 2: Max adds: Geller’s claim that she had “no idea” about the August 22 rally is ridiculous. [...]
now max is a halachic expert?
max, as a non observant jew, you have no right to question others level of observance…especially when you dont know the halacha and turn to some webpage for guidance
but this is what non observant jews do to make themselves feel better over their own guilt for choosing to have nothing to do with their religion
as for the protest, i have seen vids of disgusting things being said by both sides
and both sides are playing right into the hands of the islamists
there will never be a cordoba center….not because of the protests, but because the organization is a joke
they have raised 20k….for a 100 million dollar project
you both are fighting over a concept
btw max
as there are over 1 billion muslims in the world, how in the heck can they be considered a “religious minority”?
Brilliant take down of Geller Max. I think it is time for the media to do their job and refer to this woman as what she is: a fascist sympathizer. She openly shills for European fascist groups just because they hate Muslims, ignoring that they were publicly hating Jews not too long ago. When the pogroms against Muslims start in this country, Geller’s hands will be covered with blood, though she will probably remain in a bubble of delusion where she is a “human-rights activist.” What a crock.
miri
when did you become a torah scholar so that you could critique what the rambam did and did not know?
a misogynistic pervert? care to provide even one example?
i love when the unlearned and irreligious make ignorant and bigoted comments…then cry to the heavens when they are called self hating
Walt,
“i love when the unlearned and irreligious make ignorant and bigoted comments…then cry to the heavens when they are called self hating”
Geller is the unlearned and irreligious making ignorant and bigoted comments, crying to the heavens and the world when she is called contemptuous and credited for creating conflict. She is motivated by greed and glory.
I can see the crap in each of the three Abrahamic traditions, I’m not a self hating Abrahamic. Calling people who are clearly motivated by compassion “self hating” or “anti-semitic” only shows you have no facts and no compassion.
“This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;” Hebrews 10:16
gd
im not a christian, so im not sure why you are quoting from the new testament
if geller is not observant, then the comment regarding plastic surgery is even more absurd.
but you are not motivated by compassion…that is bs.
there is no center…they dont have the money,,,they dont have an architect…they havent done an environmental impact study
both sides are engaged in political and righteous masturbation
Walt,
Oops, I copied and pasted the wrong quote. I’m working on other concerns, over six million murdered in the Congo and millions raped for conflict minerals. I keep making mistakes in my comments. Much suffering going on, earth quakes, tsunamis, floods. Not enough death and destruction, people keep killing for greed and glory. Geller is focusing on how close a community center meant to create connections is to the site where others meant to create divisions. Not enough so far one man slashed for being a muslim, how much more suffering can Geller and her gang cause for her greed and glory?
32 “For this is the covenant that I shall form with the House of Israel after those days,” says the L-rd; “I will place My Torah within them, and I will inscribe it upon their heart; and I will be their G-d and they shall be a people for Me.”
33 “And no longer they shall teach, a man his neighbor, and a man his brother, saying, ‘know the L-rd,’ for they shall all know Me, from their smallest to their greatest,” says the L-rd, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will no longer remember.”
Jeremiah 31: 31-32
walt kovaks wrote “as there are over 1 billion muslims in the world, how in the heck can they be considered a ‘religious minority’?”
I find it funny that you first attack others for lacking religious authority to make an argument, then attempt to make a ridiculous argument in statistics.
It is good that you are slowly learning that one does not need any authority to make an argument.
In any case I will teach you why it is considered a “religious minority”.
The designation of “majority”/”minority” labels is dependent on sample size. Anything bigger than 50% sample size is considered a majority and anything less is considered a minority.
In your case, the sample size is the world (since you cited the number Muslims in the world). There are approx 1 billion Muslims in the world. The population of the world is over 6 billion (over 7 now i think).
Therefore, Muslims are approx 1/6 of the total world population which is less than 50%. Hence Muslims are a “religious minority”.
Muslims are not however, a religious minority in samples where Muslims are over 50% of population. Hence, Muslims are a majority, when you consider your sample, the nation of Saudi Arabia for example.
In the US, since Muslims constitute less than 50%, they are a religious minority.
Hope you enjoyed the free high school statistics lesson.
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[...] supporters who are on the Homeland Security Committee in the House of Representatives. And this piece of his is also quite good and below I’ll be posting a couple of pics Mr. Blumenthal posted there [...]
Max, have you seen Charles Johnson’s latest on the EDL and Pamela Geller renouncing her “support” for them?
She has a blog up at her own site, I won’t link to Atlas Shrugs, but you can find it. She talks about why she is leaving them, but of course doesn’t mention the real reasons.
The term “rats leaving the sinking ship” comes to mind…
British Branch of the ‘Anti-Jihad’ Movement in Full Meltdown
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38820_British_Branch_of_the_Anti-Jihad_Movement_in_Full_Meltdown
Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are oddly silent
So I have to wonder how Spencer and Geller will react to the latest news about their British allies.
First, the news that one of the EDL’s leaders, John “Snowy” Shaw, has suddenly realized that he hates Jews as much as Muslims, and is raving about the infamous antisemitic forgery “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion:” HOPE not hate blog: Infidel leader praises the Protocols.