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By: rjvg50

rjvg50 — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:14:30 +0000

We have a binary system of voting institutionalized by GERRYMANDERING. In time urbanization will decrease the trend but the lasting imprint will not go away for a very long time.

By: ernie1241

ernie1241 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:14:46 +0000

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By: DrBlizzardo

DrBlizzardo — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:45:53 +0000

Mike_Franklin wrote: “They also knew that for extremism to succeed, there must be two equally opposed ends, both just as polarizing as the other.”

This sounds very pretty but, in our heart of hearts, do we really know this to be true? Actually, I suspect it’s one of those generalizations that, upon more close scrutiny, is found to be reliably false…like much of the recent Conservative dogma (which is precisely why I no longer count myself as a conservative).

There are lunatics on the left today, to be sure…but they are nothing like the roiling cauldron of hate, intolerance and ignorance that informs the bulk of the conservative movement at present.

Or the past. Look back again, at the Clinton Presidency–they brought impeachment hearings against a President who, for all he may have had an ethical lapse and be a world class asshole, was found innocent of any wrongdoing in general, or criminal wrongdoing in particular–by the very prosecutors who brought the charges. Yet the hate, the attacks, the vitriol continued unabated.

Compare that to the presidency of Mr. Bush where, despite numerous proven instances of treason, high crimes and misdemeanors, not to mention criminal mismanagement and neglect of the country’s welfare, did not even result in censure, let alone impeachment–there were no “foaming-at-the-mouth”, “fire-eating” true believers on the left to force the issue. More’s the pity; one hopes the War Crimes tribunal in The Hague will not be so shy.

The same could be said of the criminality of the Regan administration.

So…I find your premise unsatisfying as a model for recent American political history–it is even less so when seen in the light of other American, European, historical or recent, power shifts to extremism (Margaret Thatcher is one handy example leaping immediately to mind).

To your credit, your premise does nicely model power shifts such as the Cuban revolution and such figures from Ernesto Guevara to Simon Bolivar to José Doroteo Arango Arámbula (Pancho Villa).

By: Mike_Franklin

Mike_Franklin — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:52:48 +0000

Eisenhower being a centrist… and in times much like today when partisan extremism was glorified from both far ends of the political spectrum, was noted to say: “The middle of the road is all of the usable surface. The extremes, right and left, are in the gutters.”

John Kennedy, slightly less centered than his predecessor, said, “Extreme opposites resemble the other.”

Indeed. They do resemble each other quite a lot… something you may want to consider as you so happily engage your own opposites in equally extreme fashion.

Eisenhower and Kennedy both knew the dangers of extremism, from either tilt. They also knew that for extremism to succeed, there must be two equally opposed ends, both just as polarizing as the other. The people will then have no place in the middle to meet and the division of the spoils, our nation, will be theirs.

To this end, the house is finally divided.

The only question is, why?

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