On September 20 and 21, I attended services at the church Sarah Palin belonged to since she was an adolescent, the Wasilla Assembly of God. Though Palin officially left the church in 2002, she is listed on its website as “a friend,” and spoke there as recently as June 8 of this year.
I went specifically to see a pastor visiting from Kiambu, Kenya named Thomas Muthee. Muthee gained fame within Pentecostal circles by claiming that he defeated a local witch, Mama Jane, in a great spiritual battle, thus liberating his town from sin and opening its people to the spirit of Jesus.
Muthee’s mounting stardom took him to Wasilla Assembly of God in May, 2005, where he prayed over Palin and called upon Jesus to propel her into the governor’s mansion — and beyond. Muthee also implored Jesus to protect Palin from “the spirit of witchcraft.” The video archive of that startling sermon was scrubbed from Wasilla Assembly of God’s website, but now it has reappeared.
The Youtube version is below (Palin appears after about 7:30):
Since Palin was nominated as vice president, Wasilla Assembly of God has taken a draconian line with reporters. The church now forbids members of the media from filming, taking notes, or bringing voice recorders to its services. I was able to record Muthee’s recent sermons only by deploying an array of tiny cameras and hidden microphones. Though the quality and comprehensiveness of my footage was severely compromised by the church’s closed door policy to the press, I was not going to be deterred.
By the end of the second day of Muthee’s sermons, the church had been tipped off about me, the liberal media member in its midst. An associate pastor told me he had received an email from an anonymous source warning him about me. When I tried to interview members of the congregation in the church parking lot, my questions were either met with silence or open hostility. I strongly suspect the McCain campaign has mobilized the Wasilla Assembly of God against perceived threats from the media.
But they hardly needed encouragement. On the first night of services, Muthee implored his audience to wage “spiritual warfare” against “the enemy.” As I filmed, a nervous church staffer approached from behind and told me to put my camera away. I acceded to his demand, but as Muthee urged the church to crush “the python spirit” of the unbeliever enemies by stomping on their necks, I pulled out a smaller camera and filmed from a more discreet position. Now, church members were in deep prayer, speaking in tongues and raising their hands. Muthee exclaimed, “We come against the spirit of witchcraft! We come against the python spirits!” Then, a local pastor took the mic from Muthee and added, “We stomp on the heads of the enemy!”
Behind the Christian right’s enthusiasm for Palin’s conservative credentials is a visceral sense that that she has come from them, not to them. Some right-wing evangelicals even believe she has messianic potential. As former Christian Broadcasting Network vice president Jim Bramlett wrote, “Sarah is that standard God has raised up to stop the flood. She has the anointing.”
The Christian right’s analysis is accurate to a certain degree. While Palin may not be The One, she is certainly one of them. Her social policy views, from her rejection of scientific evidence on global warming to her opposition to publicly funding emergency contraception for rape victims, are explicitly influenced by the sectarian theology she has subscribed to since she was a teenager. There is no better evidence of the depth of Palin’s radical convictions than her startling encounter with the witch-hunter, Bishop Muthee.
Next week, I will post an exclusive video documentary here that will shed further light on Palin’s relationship with Muthee and the religious right in Alaska. Stay tuned.
Max,
I’ve been following your work… um… religiously… ever since the Hagee scandal. You’re doing outstanding work.
One question which has been in my mind ever since the Muthee videos were made available…
Why has Wasilla Assembly of God decided to make the Muthee videos available? Do you suspect, as I suspect, that the McCain campaign advised WAoG to make the Muthee videos available for fear that their inavailability might draw more attention to them than the actual videos themselves?
TE
Maybe Muthee is an Electric Wizard fan?
“I, The Witchfinder”
I am Albino, evil witchfinder
I’ll cleanse her sins, for witchcraft I condemn her
My implements of torture are bloody red
Your confession to sorcery will leave you dead
Will leave you dead
Will leave you dead
I am Albino, evil witchfinder
I know she’s guilty before I find her
I’ll pierce her flesh to find his mark
Torture, my pleasure, true servant of the dark
True servant of the dark
Dear Max,
The prospect of Palin getting anywhere near the White House frightens me deeply. That said, I found the editing of this video troubling. In particular, there were many instances in which the sound quality, particularly as reflected in the timbre of Muthee’s voice, seemed changed and/or out of context. Can you guarantee that everything we heard and saw was simply a real-time recording of events as they occurred during the service? How many edits were made in the production of this almost 10-minute clip, and for what reason.
Again, I’m fully inclined to believe that Palin’s Church is a thoroughly nutty place, with or without seeing this video. My concern is that we saw the Right-Wing crazies editing Rev. Wright’s sermons so he would look as scary and insane as possible, and I would hope that’s not a precedent we’re following. Thanks.
Vienna1897,
Complete video and audio of Thomas Muthee’s sermons are available at the Wasilla Assembly of God website…
http://www.wasillaag.net/topical.html
As you can hear, Muthee’s voice gets a bit froggy when he raises it. Cigarettes maybe?
Great job Max–you’re amazing!!! I don’t think I’d ever have had the nerve to do what you keep doing. Can’t wait for the next installment.
How has this woman gotten even this far?? Shocking and scary stuff – great job.
“we need believers who are educationists” – still scary, but kinda funny, too.
Kargo X at the big orange points out a rather startling passage at about 1:20:
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Sooo… would Sarah Palin care to explain what her minister meant about the “Israelites” and “how they are” to say… a certain demographic that just might have an impact on Florida?
You people are like racists. I’m a pentecostal. I get this because I grew up in this environment. It’s nothing to fear, it’s just not something outsiders can easily understand. I speak in tongues. I love science. I have a master’s degree. I’m pro gay marriage and pro choice. I love Jesus which really means I try to love everyone. It isn’t easy and I fail a lot. My ultimate point is that this is nothing to fear. It’s just one of the ways that some of us connect to God. I can’t identify with high church forms of religious expressions. You guys can’t identify with this. That doesn’t make it bad or scary. It’s just a different way to connect to God.
You all could stand to be a little more tolerant of things you don’t understand. Our differences make us richer in spirit. Tolerance of differences make us wise.
Neal Campbell, September 24th, 2008 @11:24 pm
You people are like racists.
Is this part of that massage of Gawd’s love we’ve been hearing so much about from religious types?
I’m a pentecostal. I get this because I grew up in this environment. It’s nothing to fear, it’s just not something outsiders can easily understand.
The Muslims ‘get’ honor killings, gang rape, killing the infidels, and facing Mecca six times a day in the same way. Do you, as an outsider to the Muslim faith, feel the same way towards their rituals that are somewhat incomprehensible to you?
I speak in tongues. I love science. I have a master’s degree. I’m pro gay marriage and pro choice. I love Jesus which really means I try to love everyone. It isn’t easy and I fail a lot.
I’m afraid that this appears to be one of the times that you failed.
My ultimate point is that this is nothing to fear. It’s just one of the ways that some of us connect to God.
Some of us fear those who feel that they have a ‘need’ to connect to the Invisible Sky Fairy. They especially fear those who feel that everyone must be forced to find a way to connect to whatever they conceive of as a higher being, and take steps to legislate those beliefs into law. Which would be why we fear a religiously insane individual being close to being able to bring about Armageddon by their own hands.
I can’t identify with high church forms of religious expressions. You guys can’t identify with this. That doesn’t make it bad or scary. It’s just a different way to connect to God.
Some of us can’t identify with any pagan occult superstitionists, be they high church forms of religious expression of any denomination, snake handlers speaking in tongues, concerned parishoners exorcising demons from their neighbors, or pastors preaching that the age of consent is puberty.
You all could stand to be a little more tolerant of things you don’t understand. Our differences make us richer in spirit. Tolerance of differences make us wise.
Yes, everyone could stand to be a little more tolerant of things they don’t understand. If Sarah Palin hadn’t forced r@pe v!ctims to pay for their own r@pe k!ts because she didn’t want her fiefdom to pay for contraceptives and, in effect, legislated her beliefs into law, she wouldn’t be nearly as much of a concern to those of us who resent having to deal with the current level of faith-based intrusions into our lives, much less the anticipated level that a lying, hypocritical, back-stabbing ‘christian’ such as her would bring into the nation’s capital.
This is really chilling footage. It helps make clear why a person so profoundly ill-experienced and unprepared would accept the McCain team’s offer to run as vice president. She believes God is directing her. Now I don’t begrudge the woman and the congregation their faith. God love ‘em, their right to worship as they see fit is guaranteed under the Constitution. And I guess Sarah has a right to say yes if John McCain asks her to be his running mate, though it does reveal grandiose notions about her capacities that is breathtaking. But I do find appalling that McCain would visit such a diversionary trick on this country with not enough time to vet this decision among the American voters. Max, I appreciate your industry in getting this out to people. McCain’s tricks and gimmicks–including the two yesterday (suspending his campaign to airlift into the bailout discussions and withdrawing from the debate)–show his bad judgment and how unfit he is to lead.
Neal,
Thomas Muthee’s crusade against Mama Jane nearly got her killed by an angry mob and forced her to leave her home and her town… all for the “crime” of being a fortune teller in Mr. Muthee’s spiritual warzone.
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you, right? How would you like it if some crackpot were to do to you what Muthee did to Mama Jane? Of course, what happened to Mama Jane won’t happen to you because you are lucky enough to have the protection of law and order.
Anyone who thinks that Mr. Muthee’s practices are innocuous should read Tracy McVeigh’s article on modern “witch hunts” in Africa and watch the video that accompanies it…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/dec/09/tracymcveigh.theobserver
Do you still think that Mr. Muthee is harmless?
Of course, no one knows whether or not Sarah Palin shares Muthee’s concerns about witchcraft but the fact that she seems to think his incantations led to her being elected Governor raises questions. And, although no one knows whether or not Palin shares Muthee’s desire for theocracy, the fact that she allowed him to pray over her after he called for exactly that raises questions.
Palin was a member of Wasilla Assembly of God for most of her life. Questions about the extent of Palin’s indoctrination into the WAoG way of thinking are warranted.
Regarding tolerance… just because someone criticizes something or makes fun of it doesn’t mean that person isn’t tolerant of it. An example of intolerance would be Muthee’s crusade against Mama Jane.
TE
@ Neal Campbell, who said:
“You guys can’t identify with this. That doesn’t make it bad or scary. It’s just a different way to connect to God.”
Sorry, but I disagree. If it were just that Muthee was speaking at some random church, then fine, I could care less. People are free to worship as they please.
We are examining Muthee as a way to gain insight into the person who might be a malignant freckle away from being Leader of the Free World. How else are we to go about this? It’s been almost 30 days now since Palin was tapped, and she has yet to answer any substantive, unscripted questions. So all we’re left to examine is crumbs like this in which Muthee talks about stomping a python spirit. Does the fact that Palin has some tangible but hidden connection to this frighten me? Damn right it does.
“We come against the spirit of witchcraft! We come against the python spirits!”
Might Pastor Muthee perhaps be referring to the ‘Monty Python spirits’?
Yes, people should be allowed to worship as they choose….This is common in many churches veering away from the norm and into radical worship. I know this because I was there one of the nights Muthee spoke in Wasilla and my mother participates in activities such as this and would be considered a religious extremist. The thing about religious extremists is they insist that it is there way or damn us to hell if we believe differently (and they literally treat and bestow upon us eternal damnation or a type of “spirtitual warfare” with incessant prayer and scripture throwing as I like to call it. Muthee also showed the congregation a video, unfortunately the audio was horrible but the main points that he made is God loves you, now send us more money so that we can lure the people into God with a water hole. From my understanding he own equipment to drill wells, after he provides a place for water, the people come and will undoubtedly attend the church because Muthee gives them water (a vital-as anywhere- but rare necessity in Africa)anywhere. Then he went into detail about how he sent his missionaries to a drunk man and the man kept refusing to attend the church but the missionaries persisted until finally they literally dragged the man drunk into Muthee’s office where Muthee prayed and redeemed him although he was still drunk. Odd story! Odd people but friendly I will give them that! This is the case with all extreme churches though during the time the congregation gathers they are your best friends; outside of the congregation they become mean, hateful, hypocritical people that treat people as inferiors because they “know God”… the supposed God of love. The bottom line is I know my mother, I know the people of my mother’s church, and any other religious extremists that I met should not be running a business, let alone a nation, especially when they so deeply believe in the end and coming of Christ that they will do anything to keep the words of the Bible true, especially when it is a whole movement. It would be a little disappointing to say the least if after all this time they predicted these horrifying events and by 2012 nothing happened, then they will have proven that those things we’ve set in our hearts and minds to be true will have been a lie. If the prophecy is not fulfilled it will all be a lie and this is where Sarah Palin and the presidency come into play! Thanks for an enlightening experience Max! Hasta la proxima vec!
Max,
In your upcoming video piece on Bishop Muthee, you should provide the following audio to show that whatever craziness he recently exhibited at Wasilla AoG was not an isolated event…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsnrIVj9IbM
The audio in the YouTube clip of Muthee advocating violence is from sermons available here…
http://www.kingsgateuk.com/Articles/3516/Kingsgate_Community_Church/Resources/Teaching/Download_Sunday_Messages.aspx
TE
Shekinah,
Your firsthand perspective on Wasilla AoG is fascinating. You should probably blog about it.
I think what alarms me most about the Prophetic movement is what Bruce Wilson pointed out in one of his articles…
“We are studying Jesus, declares Kalnins, but Jesus is not so much “studied” as felt, or intuited, and because what “Jesus” means is almost completely undefined such a Jesus can function as an empty vessel into which leaders of the Third Wave and the New Apostolic Reformation can pour their aggressive and intolerant political ideology.” – Bruce Wilson, A Heartbeat Away, or Why Palin’s Churches Matter, Sept. 25, 2008.
I’ve been reading everything I can about the Prophetic movement and I can tell you… it is a rabbit hole if I ever saw one.
TE
Not to derail this thread, but I have to respond to Tom, who says:
The Muslims ‘get’ honor killings, gang rape, killing the infidels, and facing Mecca six times a day in the same way.
Actually, we don’t get the killing and rape part, and while some Muslims pray in the direction of Mecca 5 times a day, others don’t. Killings and rape not part of the religion, despite the what you are fed by the media…and since you know that the media is slanted on many important issues, why would you take their word on what 1.3 billion people believe? Please educate yourself. You could read Karen Armstrong’s work–she’s a religious scholar and pretty impartial–and look at the work done by Muslim leaders such as the Aga Khan and the Queen Rania of Jordan.
Maybe we should pit the Church of Palintology against some of the radicals in other religions, in a giant steel cage match, not unlike the staged ones offered by pro wrestling.
Except this match would be for real and the winner would be whoever killed the most of the other religion.
Or is that what Palin, Bush, Hagee and those other nut cases fundies are trying to do in real time?
Jesus H. Christ, what is it about organized religion that makes people so fucking crazy?
Nishma is right and Tom is wrong. Tom’s anti-Islam is part and parcel of right-wing anti-Muslim fear mongering even though Tom appears to do it from secularist bigotry rather than Christian bigotry. (I am not religious btw).
The phrase “spiritual warfare” deserves some attention because it is the original and most common meaning of “jihad” within Islam. In both cases in its best sense it involves internal spiritual struggle to be a better person according to the lights of one’s belief. In my particular outlook the corresponding ideas might relate to ideas like “the unexamined life is not worth living” and other injunctions to critical self-reflection. From another tradition, “If I am not for myself, who will be? If I am only for myself, what am I? If not now, when?” to be lived, within human limitations, requires struggles, of spirit if you like, or of mind and emotion if you prefer.
Both “jihad” and Christianist “spiritual warfare” can be perverted in translation to external social struggles which can become physically violent. Yet even this is complicated. Shall we repudiate Julia Ward Howe and the abolitionists when they sang of the “glory” of God “trampling out the vineyards where the Grapes of Wrath are stored” and “loos[ing] the lightning of his terrible swift sword”? Spiritual warfare if ever there was. The historical roots of Muslim Brotherhoods lie in great external social jihads in early 19th century West Africa, that were anti-slavery and opposed to corrupt rulers who collaborated in selling slave-produced goods to incipient Western imperial powers — which at the very same time were moving to justify their imperialism with criticism of “Muslim slavery.” Yet those social revolutionary jihads demanded purity and conformity of belief.
But IMO these contradictions are problems to be struggled *with*, not *against*, at least not always, in the sense of Jacob struggling with God, or the struggles of Job, stories that may illuminate the human moral condition even for the non-religious. The Quran probably has similar stories.
On the “Israelites” passage, if you read it carefully, Muthee is saying that the Israelites handle wealth in a righteous manner and is calling on his Pentecostal manner to do so as well. “Israelite” may or may not refer to contemporary Jews; it can be figurative (see e.g. uses in Rastafarianism, as in the Desmond Dekker song). Some of those figurative uses can be used to deny that modern Jews are “true Israelites” and assert that someone else is (cf. “British Israelism” going back to the 19th century or modern extreme racist “Christian Identity” theology). I do no see anti-Semitism in Muthee’s remark.
The witch-hunting/ finding part is the most difficult to deal with. It would take too long to go into deeply, but as an academically trained scholar of African history I can tell you that a) many African societies believed that much of what we would call ill fortune and illness was not chance (as “fortune” suggests) but directed, secret malevolent action; b) that the separation of the material and spiritual worlds in Western cultural idioms (including Christianity) was so obviously nonsensical within local cultures as to be almost incomprehensible; c) that colonial and missionary efforts to “stamp out witchcraft” including witch-finding, which was treated as the same, all being superstition, was seen as the colonizers and missionaries siding with the witches, and a major source of resistance to missionaries; d) that as Africans began forming independent churches, this was often an issue over which they broke with missionary churches, citing biblical anti-witchcraft texts in justification (the same ones used rather less profoundly to condemn e.g. the Harry Potter books in the U.S. today); e) and that one of the reasons why Pentecostalism has popular appeal in parts of Africa is its connection of Satan as an active force in the world to its openness to various spiritual experiences, including witchcraft on the negative side.
It also is the case that historically and in the present there were individuals who practiced witchcraft, with belief in its effectiveness — in Swaziland in the late 1980s there were a number of “medicine murders” in which young people were killed and body parts taken for use in making substances believed to strengthen the politically powerful supernaturally.
Of course, witch finding was also often used cynically to get at enemies, and to some extent though not nearly as much as in early modern Europe did tend to focus on women, particularly if they practiced healing or other arts in ways that claimed spiritual power of some sort. The case of “Mama Jane” sounds something like that. On the other hand, in some cases a “fortune teller” might also be in part a witch-finder himself or herself — discerning persons who might be trying to harm you in secret from a distance, by means that could be either spiritual or material in Western terms.
Now the question of how this relates to Sarah Palin’s possible actions as vice-president or (heaven forefend) inheritor of the presidency in the 21st century U.S. operates at a different level. It includes anti-constitutional authoritarian dispositions to impose particular beliefs, and the paradoxes and ironies of condemning Islamic spiritual struggle, as opposed to its material perversion, by falsely reducing the former to the latter, derived in part from a priori definition of Islam as a false religion and a vehicle of Satan, as part of supposed Christian spiritual struggles.
But the mere fact that Palin’s former church leaves itself open to Pastor Muthee’s belief in witchcraft tells us no more than Catholic belief in the literal truth of transubstantiation in communion, and rejection of it without seeking more complex understanding can be tantamount to accusing Catholics of cannibalism. How beliefs relating to presence of active personified evil in the world help many people cope with their travails is worthy of a lot of thought, as such beliefs are widespread among people whom progressives regard as on the wrong end of society’s inequalities for whose benefit progressives at least nominally argue such inequalities should be redressed.
A witch fighter???
ROTFLMAO
At least we can laugh at things like this these days, unlike old Salem.
I think there’s nothing wrong with her views… save that they’re completely insane and it worries me that American’s can even consider voting for the woman when she may very possibly become president given McCain’s age.
The problem here people have taken religious freedom to mean that not only should people be allowed to believe what they want (which is true) but that they have right to have those views taken seriously and respected (which is false).
This woman’s views do not deserve to be taken seriously or respected for they are insane theories about the world that even rudimentary inspection of the facts (rather than religious brainwashing) would quickly prove false. To vote for her is to vote for ignorance and stupidity… and given the last 8 years America needs no more of that.
A friend of mine, who has worked in Kenya with the Peace Corps, has suggested that Thomas Muthee may have as many as 3 wives back in Kenya. If this is true, I would like to know. That would mean that Palin’s church has endorsed a polygamist! Is there any way we can confirm or refute this?
Allen,
I’ve been researching Thomas Muthee pretty intensively for the past week or so and I haven’t come across anything which suggests that he either advocates or practices polygamy.
As far as I know, adherents of Apostolic-Prophetic doctrine strongly oppose polygamy.
TE
There are a lot of people who take Thomas Muthee’s witch hunting at face value. As someone above pointed out, Muthee’s work got a fortune teller run out of town one step ahead of the tar and feather squad from the “Prayer Cave” (Muthee’s church).
Thing is, Muthee’s fame, such as it is, is based on his appearance in a video called “Transformations 1″ put out by George Otis’ Jr.’s “Sentinel Group.”. Otis promotes a practice known as “spiritual mapping,” where charismatic Christians discern the spiritual strongholds in their area (i.e., nests of Buddhists, Wiccans, Unitarians and the like) and then do things like prayer walking to get them to leave. What Muthee was doing in Kiambu, Kenya, was a version of that.
The “Transformations 1″ video highlights four cities that were allegedly “transformed” by these practices. Kiambu was one of them. Another was Hemet, California. There, some Christians went around spiritually mapping “cultists” and then praying that they would leave town. Additionally, they’d pray that crime rates would go down. Well, apparently crime rates DID go down, but crime rates everywhere in 1999 were lower than they had been in a while (an example of that Clinton prosperity at work, now long gone). However, the business of having gotten rid of the local cultists was just bogus.
On the north edge of Hemet, just over the city limits, is a Church of Scientology compound known as “Gold Base.” It was there in 1999 (I picketed there) and remains there today. When I first heard of the “Transformations 1″ video, I nearly blew a blood vessel, since I knew these people who put it out were absolutely LYING about allegedly clearing out the spiritual darkness around Hemet. Even if one were to grant that ok, Gold Base is not within the city limits, at the time when this video was made, Gold Base’s hundreds of workers were being housed in apartment complexes in Hemet itself.
My point is this: if the people who put out the “Transformations 1″ video were so wrong about Hemet, CA, it’s entirely possible, and indeed quite likely, that they also lied about the other three cities, including Muthee’s Kiambu, Kenya. So, in short, Thomas Muthee’s reputation may very well be built upon a foundation of lies.
Why would I not be surprised?
I am a christian, but not of the same variety of the Wasilla AOG. I have many friends and family in the prophetic movement and have studied it closely. This is not something scary that will hurt anyone. In fact, most people in this movement stay out of politics and government. They believe more in the power of prayer than the power of government.
There must have been a reason why Palin left WAOG and now attends Wasilla Bible Church which is not part of the same “prophetic movement”. It may have been WAOG’s involvement in the “prophetic movement”. It was not involved in it until fairly recently. She still has lots of friends there and obviously attends special meetings there.
The left has made this tempest in a teapot into a scary strawman. If you are afraid of scarecrows, fine. I’m not.
Palmeranian,
If you really believe that the Apostolic-Prophetic movement is harmless, then consider the following…
According to an archived webpage from an Apostolic-Prophetic site, Thomas Muthee cured 23 people of AIDS…
http://web.archive.org/web/20031213164752/www.godsglory.org/prayercave/main/cc1.html
The claim that Muthee cured 23 people of AIDS made me laugh when I first read about it but that laughter ended as I came to the grim realization that the false hope he gave those 23 people may have led to exponentially more infections.
Do you still believe that the Apostolic-Prophetic mindset is harmelss?
TE
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Why is there so little press about Palin and her association with this preacher or those involved with Alaskan Independence Party (a movement whose founder’s platform is openly anti-US)? Some mainstream Republicans are embarrassed of their party painting Obama as unAmerican and a terrorist by association. McCain and Palin claims shady associations should be fair game and explained. Well if that’s what they’re expecting then the failure to have his surrogates beef something up about Palin is wrong. Palin is going to have a future in the party and I’d like it cut down now.
Another odd thing that among politicians I rarely if ever hear is to announce your goals along with your spouse. By that I mean that Palin has a strong tendency to include her husband when she speaks about or make her campaign promises. Very odd to read that Palin has said “Todd and I” intend to do this for the people or “Todd and I” promise to do that for the country… What is that all about???? What other politician does that? Not even Hillary and she has a great reason to include her spouse.
When Todd and Sarah Palin both refused to respond to subpoenas, the Dems had a great opportunity to remind the American people of their true nature a la Rove and Cheney. Change? Heck no. Todd Palin today finally admitted that he made “hundreds of calls” about the issues central to Troopergate. he ahd said he had very little to do with it. It’s obvious that he will continue to be centrally involved in Sarah Palin’s political decisions, far more than just being a spouse. Todd runs her show. Todd is more involved in the Alaskan Independence Party than she and gave a speech in support of the Alaska Independence Party this year, in 2008. It’s obvious that Sarah Palin has no qualms in being controlled, and in being negative and mean spirited. McCain himself stays away from it and evidenced by his failure to go down that road on TV – yet I think he will next time given all the uproar and calling out that he needs to man up. That will not go over well. Not because he isn’t up to the task but because he’s pretended not to be for so long that he’s not used to speaking out. He let his wife tell half truths on the stump now by stating “my blood tan cold” when Obama didn’t vote to fund the troops – “my son” – yet intentionally misleading her audience by failing to disclose that his vote involved the lack of a timetable for withdrawal and that her husband John McCain vote not to fund the troops either when the bill included a timetable.
A comment about the one video in the Daily Beast with Sarah’s own minister(Ed Kalnin)praying over her:listen very closely at the very end, the last sentence where someone shouts out “Jezebel we curse you!” Check out what ‘they’ mean by Jezebel.
If you really dig deeply into their church & beliefs, Jezebel from my research on it is considered to be the Holy Virgin Mary, and is called the whore of Babylon… It’s SICK SICK SICK…
Also check out ‘The Masters Commission’ which Sarah mentioned & praised to the members in another video when she was speaking at her church. See what they do with what almost seems like a cult brainwashing with young teenagers for this War for God, (where Alaska will be the last refuge on earth) as well as check out what Joels Army is.
There’s a lot more that needs to be exposed (Max?) in my opinion than just the witch doctor & his mumbo jumbo, that doesn’t bother me at all. I totally believe in and respect religious freedom for anyone but not where some of those kinds of beliefs from someone in position in extreme power could affect me with that sick kind of thinking or set the world and women back 500 years.
I also thought her church was considered heretical and thrown out from the reg. AOG because of some of their strange beliefs?? Not sure but thought I read that somewhere.
Religious people are nuts. Really. Nuts.
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