I would ask of anyone who has read this article to go to http://www.wasillabible.org click on the seventh blue tab marked “sermons”. Scroll until you find 7-13-08 and either read the sermon or listen to the audio. You decide for yourself how accurate this article by Max is. Before coming to the assumption that this article is correct I ask you to come up with your own decisions of what Wasilla Bible Church and its Senior Pastor stand for. Media has struck Alaska harder than ever before and unfortunately sways very much towards the liberal stand point.

Anonymous:

I have, and how does Palin get a pass on this from people who were using Jeremiah Wright’s equally incendiary preaching to trash Obama?

Easy answer to your question Craig. She gets a pass because she attends an all-white church with a white pastor. The outrage over Jeremiah Wright was a racist attempt to scare white people.

Why would God raise up Communist Russia to destroy the U.S.? Why would he punish the U.S. for our sins, but not Russia for theirs, which I would assume he believes are much more serious? Sounds kind of anti-American to me.

Holy crap, JustBeingPedantic, guess you weren’t around for the whole brouhaha over Jeremiah Wright. If you were, maybe you’d see the hypocrisy behind your “sounds pretty liberal to me.” I suspect you don’t care to see it, anyway.

In politics, turnabout is fair play.

Oh, Anonymoose!

I remember the brouhaha over Rev. Wright all too well, and I’m sorry you missed the satire when I wrote, “Sounds pretty liberal to me.”

Think for a minute; are you arguing that we should stoop to the level of the right wing lunatic fringe?

Did you hear a single word from those “good conservative Christians” at the Republican Convention about feeding the hungry or housing the homeless?

Go read the Sermon on the Mount and tell me that isn’t the best definition of liberal values ever written.

I’m curious if Sarah Palin speaks in tongues. I’m also curious if there’s video of it.

besides, this post isn’t even attacking christianity, i don’t see why any of the more liberal ideas in the bible matter when these people are obviously focusing on using the apocalyptic parts to justify their focus on the regressive parts. these people aren’t living lives according to christ and they aren’t interested in doing so.

if he was up there preaching the “liberal” ideas from the bible, like accepting others and loving your brother regardless of his sins, then palin either wouldn’t be attending this church or she wouldn’t be the nominee for the republican party.

Well, duh, Dan! The headline *doesn’t* put the minister’s words in context, you have to read the story below it. Which isn’t hard, since it’s a pretty short post. The minister’s getting a fair shake compared to the way Rev. Wright was treated.

Jake: Turnabout like this is a bad idea because all it will do is fire up the right wing noise machine and give them a free excuse to reintroduce Rev. Wright into the campaign. And that will surely distract the MSM from the real issue, assuming they can get their collective heads out of their ass, which is that Palin is utterly unqualified and McCain, in trying to pander to the extreme right wing, showed a phenomenal lack of judgment is selecting her.

And Anonymous (@9:35): I don’t think a blog should censor itself. I do think it should take care to get the facts right, which is something this post doesn’t do. Again, go read the sermon. Max has twisted Pastor Kroon’s message to suit his own political purpose, which is exactly what happened to Rev. Jeremiah Wright; if it was wrong to do it to Rev. Wright, it’s wrong to do it here.

Pastor Kroon may indeed be a premillennial whack job, but I don’t see where his July 20th sermon contains any evidence of that. The Book of Zephaniah is your basic Old Testament fire and brimstone. Pastor Kroon used it as the foundation for the sort of salvation through Jesus sermon you can hear every Sunday in churches all over the country.

Look, the only thing here that matters is context. In its context, it’s a pretty standard fire-and-brimstone sermon.

Just like Jeremiah Wright’s.

And just like the sermons in thousands of churches all over the United States.

Are we to assume that Pat Robertson hates America because he said that New Orleans brought Hurricane Katrina on itself? I don’t think so; he just hates Americans. All these nut-job preachers are exactly the same. It’s nothing spectacular, if you know what it is.

But Jeremiah Wright is a radicalized black man instead of a radicalized white man, and the kid who found Jesus through his church rather than a white man’s church is running for president. The underlying story here is not that Barack Obama or Sarah Palin or anybody else has/had an effing ridiculous pastor. It is that the media is race-baiting. If this isn’t a story explosion by next week Thursday, well, then we’ll know for sure: CNN, Fox News, and, yes, even MSNBC are racist networks. And Americans are willfully ignorant to it.

Well, Anne, he sure will be when Sarah Palin takes over the country. I mean, if you really want the theocrats to take over, that’s your business. Me, I’ve had about my fill of those who think the Earth is 5,000 years old, dinosaur bones were planted by the Jews, and evolution is merely liberal propaganda.

raven2017: The “networks are racist” conversation would be an interesting one to have. I wonder is it isn’t simpler than that: the networks are chicken; they’re afraid of airing anything even remotely controversial because it will negatively affect their ability to sell advertising. So, like the political parties, they pander to the lowest common denominator in their audience. And by “remotely controversial” I mean anything that would force their viewers to think or, God forbid, have to examine their fervently held beliefs in the light of evidence to the contrary.

As for the theocrats, I’m with you. Thomas Jefferson would be to. The engraving at the base of the dome in the Jefferson Memorial reads, “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” It is taken from a letter he wrote to Benjamin Rush; the tyranny he refers to is established religion (in the First Amendment sense, i.e., an official state religion), which is plainly stated elsewhere in the letter when he criticizes the clergy who seek such an establishment. An interesting side note: the White House web site ignores the religious aspect of the letter (which by itself is hilarious since Jefferson opens the letter by writing, “I promised you a letter on Christianity…”) and simply says, “In the thick of party conflict in 1800 [he] wrote in a private letter,” followed by the quote.

She sure does have a pastor problem and it’s a real one because she was there and clearly agreed with what was being said, not even mildly disturbed by it. She can be seen in a clip on Youtube, up on stage with her pastor, nodding her head in approval as he talks about plans for the End Times and Alaska’s role as a refuge state before/during Armageddon. Also see her at the same event, accepting a certificate from a program whose trailer shows the US and the WORLD being engaged in a nuclear war with missiles flying back and forth, lighting up the map. Very scary stuff. It really makes you wonder what her plans are for the Vice Presidency, and god forbid, the Presidency. Everyone should see this.

“Sarah Palin’s Alaskan Armageddon”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twqZpUT2NQ

For the sake of our great nation, is this really someone you want a 72 year old heartbeat away from the Presidency?

To: The GOP Knows You are Stupid 4:24 AM

AND…..the more we learn about Barry Obama and his offensive religious beliefs (G-damn Amerika, those damn Jews), radical political associations (terrorists Bill Ayers, bigot Louis Farrakhan, his Muslim outreach director, Mazen Asbahi, who raised money for Hamas too), and bizarre big town Chicago dealings (convicted mafioso Tony Rezko, supporting a bill that allows abortion doctors to kill babies that survive abortions), and his lies (I was against the 2nd amendment before I was for it) (WTF?) the more unlike the rest of us he seems!

He’s not Presidential, not ready to lead, and not a reformer in the least.

He’s a gimmick! A cultural elitist and socialist.

A major distraction from the very serious issues facing our country and everyone in it - Republican and Democrat alike!

Lets make sure we get him back to Chicago and his racist/terrorit/mafia friends for the beginning of this winters earmarks eh!

Barry Obama! Mr ZERO.

Max has a habit of misquoting, mis-leading, and generally making up his own news.

I now have personal knowledge of two of his political posts and they are both way off. He makes up quotes out of thin air, and misleads the public to make his own stories shine. Other “journalists” do this as well because they want to write a story but can’t find it in reality so they make it up.

F**k religion and f**k the zealot preachers that frighten their congregations and sell it, preying on the impressionable, superstitious, naive, childlike masses that flock to them like flies to s**t! Keep your damn superstitions and magic incatations to yourselves and let the rest of us live as we choose, die, and burn in hell if that’s what you believe. In the meantime, let’s elect new leaders who won’t take us back to the Middle Ages and establish a Christian Taliban here in the U.S.A.

Give what up plumb bob? The guy is a religious freak plain and simple. And the sad part, in fact the most grevious, is that he, like so many other Amerikaner Xtian religionists, seem so enamored and fixated on the old testament. I thought Jesus was part of the new wine and the new commandment? Perhaps I’m mistaken? [g]

Other “journalists” do this as well because they want to write a story but can’t find it in reality so they make it up. by MTA..

No you are confusing journalists with right wing neocon hacks who, according to that famous NY Times mag. article, make up reality as they go along. Just look at the latest non reality spin we are seeing regarding McCain bringing ‘change’ to Washington. I believe he meant pocket change for the masses..

Ironic, I went to the church web site and read the sermon. What he was really saying there was to not let poverty, or an end to American prosperity, shake their faith. In other words, don’t think that God is under any obligation to ‘bless’, in material terms, those who believe in him.

I’m glad I read it, very logical and non-scary. Unlike black liberation theology.

You know, that preacher might be right.

I mean, God already smote Wasilla, and Alaska, and by making Palin a veep pick it looks as though he’s set on smiting the whole country.

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